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Hey Folks,
I recently remove Lyndee's Stove to fix, replace, or rebuild. It is a alcohol
unit. It has no ID tag at all. I guess it is an original, but there is no way to
tell (66 C34)Any one have any Ideas ??I can't swing the price of a new unit
right now. But I would like to go propane. Is it possible to convert? (alcohol
to propane)..All info will be appreciated.
Thanks Gary
Propane stoves for RV's
are not that expensive and work fine.
Caspar Davis
C-36 Bon Aire
Victoria, B.C.
I purchased a coleman
camping stove and was able to install it inside my existing assembly in a C-8.3.
I checked the measurements from center to center of the burners and the knob
positions. I had to make a new front panel out of brushed aluminum for the
new know positions. The assembly fit well and works fine. Cost
around $70.
Gerry Bogert
C-8.3 August Moon
New Jersey
Jerry was this a propane
unit or alcohol?
Gary
Gary, for safetyīs
sake, a propane stove should only be installed if you can have a gas-tightr
compartment for the bottle with a drain to the outside of the hull, above the
waterline. I assume your originalk stove was a pressure alcohol type. If it didnīt
lose opressure (i.e. no leaks in the tank or piping) you can buy new alcohol
burners from Defender Industries or you can buy kerosene burners from them also
and convert to a kerosene stove (much hotter and no sickly alcohol smell). Thatīs
what I did on Pampero and havenīt regretted it
john
John is quite right -
propane must be installed properly, including
the arrangement he describes.
I used to be terrified of it, but after years of fighting kerosene
burners that were cantankerous about lighting, sometimes smoked and
occasionally erupted like (albeit modest) flamethrowers, I have grown
to love the modest propane stove on BonAire. Its fuel is in a
properly constructed box in the lazarette. and it has a gauge next to
the bottle that tests the integrity of the line: you shut the valve
on the tank and if the line's ok the pressure stays in the line. I
would strongly recommend having one of those, available in most RV
stores. But I think PROPERLY INSTALLED propane is a great boon.
Caspar Davis
C-36 Bon Aire
Victoria, B.C.
and IMPROPERLY
INSTALLED, it might be a GREAT BOOOM....
john
Gary,
I've got an original alcolhol stove on my boat but
converted to kerosene. I LOVE it. It burns clean, hot
and SAFE. You will need to change the burners on the
stove and that's about it. The old alc tank and lines
will do fine. But if the lines are original and there
is a lot of rust in the tank change those too. If
changing to kero put an in line filter after the tank.
Perhaps I'm a nervous nellie, BUT no boat of mine
will EVER have propane below decks for any reason,
under any condition. It's BLOODY DANGEROUS. No matter
how safely and properly installed.
No appologies tendered to propane users.
Cheers and good luck.
Darroch Baillie
C 36
Vic BC
John,
Maybe so, but I sailed for a time on a boat that had a propane stove
and oven. The propane tank was mounted in the cabin, on the bulkhead,
right next to the stove itself. I was amazed to see this at first but
the owner said that he had done it because it made the supply lines as
short as possible and also that he could check for, and detect leaks,
easily.
It seemed weird, but it made sense to me after a while. <g> And I
can
tell you - seeing that propane tank there right next to the sizzling
frying pan always gave me an instant and constant of caution. <g>
I think about that all the time when I light the propane grille at my
house. With the BBQ grille the flames and the heat are much less than
one foot above the full tanks of propane and the rubber supply hose.
<g>
stephen
Stephen, some
people can stretch their luck quite a bit..... but as far as boats are
concerned,my motto is "hope for the best but prepare for the worst".
Itīs lucky for that owner that a surveyor, or worse, the coasties didnīt
inspect his boat or that his insurance company didnīt know about his
installation :-)
john
have to admit that we
use a Coleman propane stove aboard Bryn Awel.
However, the small propane cylinder is only below when we are actually using
the stove. As soon as it is turned off, the propane cylinder is back out in
the cockpit in a PVC propane "holster".
However, as soon as we get a roundtoit we will be making a proper propane
installation.
Paul
Paul,
Do you know anything about a conversion.(could be a future article)
Gary
Casper,
Thanks for the reply,do you or anyone out there know if any one makes a
conversion kit...OR better yet how about a make an' model as I ,have no tags
or marking at all..
Thanks Gary
When we bought Hannah
(8.7 #13) last fall she had an old alcohol stove/oven which apparantly hadn't
worked in many years. The pressure tank was missing. I started to
try to replace the missing tank but when I took the range out to work on it I
was impressed with how much space it freed up. Hannah came with a nice
Optimus camping stove which uses the common 1 lb propane bottles. I'm in
the process of building a shelf for the stove under the counter but there will
still be room for a cooler or boxes underneath plus space in back. For
weekend/short cruise use a little incovenience seems like a good trade off to
free up lots of space. My plan is to take partially used bottles
home. Its probably a little late now but has anyone else had similar
thoughts?
I'm sure jealous of all of you still on the water. It was -8 F on Hannah
Sunday.
Bill
Bill,
I thought about removing our gimbaled alcohol stove several times. I
even went so far as buying a 110volt/alcohol (self contained)
combination cook top that would recess into a cabinet top. I was
thinking about making a slip in cabinet that could occupy the old stove
space and would have a small 12volt refrigerator below the combo cook
top. If I wanted to go offshore for any length of time I could then
switch back to the gimbaled stove.
It's on the list somewhere.
Mark and Kathi Banks
William, my 8.7 also
came with the Optimus Princess pressure alcohol stove, but without the oven (I
use a Coleman stainless folding stove to make bread). There is a
compartment underneath the stove (wioth two doors) where I strore all the pots
and pans). You probablyu could obtain the plans from Justin ("justin@sailinfor.com)
and build yourself a really nice original galley
john
pampero iuv
Bill,
There is a commercially available propane "Holster" that mounts on a
pushpit
stanchion. It's PVC pipe with a vented bottom cap and a removable top cap.
We keep our cylinder outside in the cockpit in one of these.
Paul
The most common propane leak is from an imperfectly
seated camping bottle. Even if you think you have
screwed it on tight it can still leak.
Don't put propane camping stoves and those small
bottles in your cabin!!! It's a bunch more than BLOODY
DANGEROUS.
Rgds
JD Baillie
C 36
Vic BC
Is the Coleman folding
stove the oven attachment that fits on top of the
stove eye or is it a special stove? My 8.7 Had been refitted with an Origo
alcohol stove which I like very much. I would like an oven but do not want
to give up the space below the stove that is where I sore the pots and pans.
I have not talked to anyone who has used one of the stove top ovens and have
wondered how well they work. I have read about using a pressure cooker
without the gasket and weighted pressure "thing" and a Dutch Oven.
Dan
Be very
cautious with the Coleman propane cylinders. Twice now I have
witnessed a partially full cylinder valve jam open when unscrewed from the valve
assembly. The thing takes several minutes to "cook off" and is spewing
propane
and getting very, very cold all the time. This is quit amusing when it happens
in the cockpit of my neighbor's Catalina 27. Down below, with the doors
closed, might not be quite that funny.
Bruce K
Challenger # 74
Los Lunas, NM
Bill,
There is a commercially available propane "Holster" that mounts on a
pushpit
stanchion. It's PVC pipe with a vented bottom cap and a removable top cap.
We keep our cylinder outside in the cockpit in one of these.
Paul
Paul, I made my
own....Got about 1 ft of 3" PVC pipe and 2 rubber end caps with SS hiose
clamps. Itīs fastened to the stern pulpit with a length of line. I like to keep
my "explosives" (propane and gasoaline) out of the boat
john
pampero iv
Dan, the Coleman folding
stove sits on a burner and is completely independent from the stove. In a
seaway, I just lash it down with a bit of SS seizing wire. However, I wonder
whether the heat of an Origo would be enough to bake bread as my kerosene burner
just manages to get it to "medium heat" and Iīve got to bake the
bread for 1/2 an hour (instead of 20 minutes on the gas range at home) for
it to be well baked
john
Hey, I didnīt catch
that mistake until the message was going out, Read Coleman folding oven",
not "Coleman folding stove"
john